Comments on: Did SCD, GAPS, or Paleo Make You Feel Worse? https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/ Solutions for sensitive people with gut health issues. Wed, 06 Sep 2023 02:45:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 By: 20bet https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-1133528 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-1133528 Your article gave me a lot of inspiration, I hope you can explain your point of view in more detail, because I have some doubts, thank you.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-795872 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-795872 In reply to Courtney.

Hi Courtney- that is interesting. Sorry for your frustration. You may want to get them a stool test as this will give you a better picture of what is going on. You may have already done this, but we’d also suggest adding in some enzymes as well. Email us at support@scdlifestyle.com and I can give you more information on stool testing.

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By: Courtney https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-795505 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-795505 I know this is an old post, but I thought I had nothing to lose by reaching out. My sons are on the autism spectrum. I put them my whole family on GAPS this past April, so we have been on it for 6 months. It went well in the beginning. I followed the advice of the diet, and did not move on to a new stage unless bowel movements were good. Everyone’s #2’s were great! If I introduced a new food that was a problem, we remained where we were or went backward for a bit. We went on the full GAPS in a little over a month. After being on the full GAPS diet for a couple of months, my sons started to get diarrhea. At first, it wasn’t every time. Now, it seems nearly every poo is a problem. I have removed many controversial foods: yogurt, kefir, coconut, raw veggies, etc. My boys never had issues like this before the diet! Why are they worse? What should I do?

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By: Scott https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-775272 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-775272 In reply to Liz.

Liz, look at taking some ox bile with your meals, or at least those meals that have fats in them. Avoiding fats is not the answer as you will miss out on some essential vitamins & fatty acids. Try a product called Bile Acid Factors by Jarrow. I a amazed at how any people have their gallbladder removed and they dont get any more support from their doctor, as if their gall bladder is a totally redundant organ. What’s worse is when their doctor denies their subsequent digestive troubles as being hypochondria.

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-771956 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-771956 In reply to Brianne.

Hi Brianne – hanks for reaching out. We are all the different healing diets can be VERY confusing. The most important thing to remember, however, is that a healing diet is only the foundation of good health – If you have another underlying cause (like a gut infection or adrenal fatigue) diet alone will never be enough to heal.

We recommend you check out our free webinar on how to heal the root causes of your gut issues here: http://solvingleakygut.com/webinar/internal-leakygut2/

I hope this helps! Hang in there

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By: Brianne https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-771907 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-771907 I was following a paleo type of diet with raw dairy for a long time. But I was experiencing joint pain, headaches, back pain, sinus issues, heartburn, acid reflux, mood issues, and fatigue. So I tried out the GAPS intro diet but it seems to have made things worse. I followed the intro diet exactly and felt much better, all of my symptoms disappeared. I got to the end of the second stage and had successfully added in a variety of foods but suddenly, without adding anything new I ended up with horrible upper abdominal pain after a few spoonfuls of just a plains stage one soup. The pain lasted most of the day and slowly spread down to my lower intestinal area before I ended up with a bit of diarrhea. This continued for a few days, I would wake up feeling better, try to drink water or meat broth, end up in pain, and not be able to eat for the rest of the day. I was losing weight and unable to eat, so I gave up and went to my previous diet, after which most of the pain went away, but not all. So now I have all of my previous symptoms back along with some abdominal pain and intestinal cramping.

My doctor prescribed a bunch of antacid medications but doesn’t want to do more testing unless those don’t work. But I don’t really believe that drugs are the answer so I haven’t taken them. I went to a naturopath but it wasn’t much help either, just a ton of expensive supplements that I haven’t noticed any difference with.

Figuring it out myself seems impossible with all of the conflicting information online and in books. For example, where one will recommend juicing vegetables and greens, another will say to avoid raw greens and vegetables because of the fiber or the plant toxins (enzyme inhibitors, oxalates, etc..).

So I am looking into other options to try, such as the AIP or SCD diets, but I’m not so sure at this point. I want to get better but I’m scared to make things worse.

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-770976 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-770976 In reply to Liz.

Hi Liz – thanks for reaching out. I’m so sorry you’re going through such a tough time. I really recommend you work one-on-one with a functional medicine practitioner. You can learn more here or email us (support@scdlifestyle) for more suggestions https://healthygut.com/practitioners/

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By: Liz https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-770946 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-770946 In reply to Steven Wright.

Hello. I need help. I been in the gaps diet for over a year, I been losing a lot of hair, I am way to skinny and every single time that I eat something I get very bad headaches. I don’t have a gallbladder. I don’t knew what to do anymore. Would you help me?

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-769349 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-769349 In reply to Barbara.

Hi Barbara – we’re sorry to hear you’re struggling right now.

I’d suggest this podcast: https://healthygut.com/vegetarians-tips-for-improving-gut-health/

I’d also suggest you check out our eBook here: http://scdlifestylebook.com/

You should only follow the Intro diet for 3-5 days before moving on and introducing more fruits and veggies to supplement your diet – and we explain exactly how to do so in the book. I hope this helps!

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By: Barbara https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-769194 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-769194 I am (was) vegetarian, quite healthy, no processed food etc. I would’ve liked to start GAPS diet for mild autoimmune issues and some new weird allergies. I started with bone broth fasting, but I am thin and so I have been eating some very small amount of meat and vegs from the broth and all the fat that sat on the top of the broth. This is only my fourth day and I feel I just can’t eat meat and fat any more. It disgust me and actually this is why I am vegetarian. Especially animal fat. I feel sick even just think of my next meal and I eat (and drink broth) less times than I should which is a disaster considering my weight (I can lose weight quite fast). I was disgusted as a child too.So what can I do? 🙁 Can I just live on coconut oil? Or is it enough if I drink bone broth (with no fat) daily and skip the meat bit? Chicken liver is something I can tolerate better for some reason, but I’v read that it is not good overusing it. Thanks for the help in advance.

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-768890 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-768890 In reply to Brenda Schwieterman.

Hi Brenda – thanks so much for reaching out to us. I’m really sorry you’re so frustrated.

First, you’re definitely not too old to get healthy. We want to believe that if we follow the diet perfectly then we can achieve 100% perfect health – but that just isn’t always true. Some things are beyond our control. Instead of focusing on where you’re still trying to improve, I hope you can appreciate all the incredible progress you’ve made in 18 months (especially considering your symptoms likely developed over your entire life, so we’re talking about 50 years vs. 18 months on the diet to see these improvements!)

All that being said, the foods you’re describing and the symptoms you’re experiencing could be related to a histamine issue. I recommend giving this podcast Steve did with Chris Kresser a listen: https://chriskresser.com/what-you-should-know-about-histamine-intolerance/

We’d also recommend you work one-on-one with a practitioner. https://healthygut.com/practitioners/ (If you need more practitioner recommendations, email us at support@scdlifestyle.com)

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By: Brenda Schwieterman https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-768628 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-768628 I’m simply aggravated. I’ve been following a very strict SCD/GAPS diet for 18 months to reverse ulcerative colitis, hypothyroidism, ADHD, anxiety and depression. I am proud to say I have gotten off of 11 prescription medications and typical symptoms are gone. BUT…..I can not handle ANY probiotics, fresh pressed juice, homemade yogurt, raw milk, fermented foods or any anti-fungals without feeling intoxicated. I feel lightheaded, lethargic, depressed sometimes agitated, and I get hot flashes and tremble. I’ve tried so many probiotics, including saccharomyces boulardii. And Gut Pros baby probiotics. Even 1/16 of a teaspoon sets me over the edge. I’ve tried taking activated charcoal with some luck, but do not understand how after 18 months of vegetables, broth grass fed beef and pasture raised chicken, I can still be experiencing this much die-off. I’ve had a stool sample and know I have a mild case of candida, but no parasites or other strange things. My stools showed no lacto or bifido strains 6 months ago. I’ve read about auto intoxication, but don’t know what to do differently to get rid of the junk in my brain! It hurts, I’m annoyed and I haven’t been myself for months.

I am 51. I am not overweight. I try to take walks regularly. I’ve never drank alcohol on a regular basis. My body does not produce sweat easily. I eat small amounts of fruit daily, along with honey on grass fed butter, occasionally. I take digestive enzymes, including lipase. I don’t take Betaine HCl because it tears my colon. I take other supplements too: vitamin D and C, magnesium, multi-vitamin, B-complex, molybdenum and NAC.
I’ve had a blood test and know I have methylation issues. My stool is a 4/5 on the Bristol Stool Scale and I poo 1-3 times a day. I drink lots of filtered water. All fruits and veggies are organic. I consume 1/2 avocado a day, plus olive oil in salad dressing and a tablespoon of UDO’s oil each morning. I also take cod liver oil and eat wild salmon weekly. Lots of steamed veggies.

My brain/head is so bothersome I want to call it quits, but there’s no way I could re-introduce anything right now. I fear I am too old for this challenge and I worry my life will never be what I intended when I started this journey in 2015. Can you help me?

Brenda

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-768460 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-768460 In reply to Amy.

Hi Amy – thanks for reaching out! Yes, SCD can help people with all the issues you’re describing here. Our approach to SCD is to customize the diet to work for you – making the “Amy” diet rather than just following SCD by the book.

Our eBook explains how to customize the diet to work for you: http://scdlifestylebook.com/

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By: Amy https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-768431 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-768431 I am of the understanding that this diet helps for extreme food intolerances and allergies. I have lactose intolerance, salicylate intolerance, am cealiac, have ibs and hyperthyroidism. How can someone with these intolerance do this diet.

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-762653 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-762653 In reply to Susan.

Hi Susan – I’m so sorry you’re having a hard time. You shouldn’t be starving on the diet.

https://healthygut.com/5-easy-ways-to-add-calories-to-the-scd-diet/

https://healthygut.com/are-you-starving-yourself-on-the-specific-carbohydrate-diet/

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By: Susan https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-762506 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-762506 I have been on SCD diet for six weeks and have started feeling awful. The good thing is my blood pressure has dropped to low levels and am working with my doctor on that. But I am starving. Lost 15 lbs.though have gained back 5 lbs. I can’t eat fruit or dairy not even legal yogurt and cheese and don’t tolerate nuts. Tomatoes are out….fructose malabsorption. Any suggestions?

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-761566 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-761566 In reply to help me.

We recommend you stop any new food you added in and keep a really close eye on your grandson. If he gets worse or his symptoms are worse than a typical cold, you should take him to the doctor for treatment.

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By: help me https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-761401 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-761401 I have had my grandson that is seven on the scd been 30 days symptoms all left. He was doing great almost actually 30 days, an now he has fever an stomach pain. Feel scared don’t won’t to do medicine at all. Don’t know if this is die off or a reaction to the tomatoe paste i put in his ketchep.

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By: www.foreverafs.com https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-754868 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-754868 Great, great article. I have AI disorders and it’s rough

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-731837 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-731837 In reply to Matt.

Hi Matt, thanks for commenting.

We recommend both digestive enzymes and testing for low stomach acid to see if you might benefit from an HCL supplement. You can learn more about both here:
https://healthygut.com/who-needs-digestive-enzymes-and-how-to-take-them/
https://healthygut.com/3-tests-for-low-stomach-acid/

Digestive enzymes and HCL can be a game-changer for those on SCD who aren’t having as much success as they would like, in our experience.

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By: Matt https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-731635 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-731635 Been on the SCD diet for IBS/gastrointestinal problems nearly 6months now with varied results. It has improved the consistency of my stools and decreased my mass (around 25lb weight loss). Also improved my moods and concentration levels. But I’m much more gassy from both ends now and have more colon pain/swelling from it. It’s hard to find a happy medium.. I found the SCD yoghurt a real game changer, it helps me a lot and I notice the days I don’t consume it.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-725359 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-725359 In reply to Betul.

Hi Betul, this may be something else if it has lasted this long and you might consider speaking with our practitioner as well as changing a few things up in the GAPS protocol.

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By: Betul https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-725259 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-725259 I have been on Gaps diet for two months and I think I’m having “die off” effect.Im feeling dizzy for about a month and I feel like I’m in a dream.(brain fog) but here it says it lasts for a few days,mine lasts for a month and still going on.what should I do?please help me

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-719363 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-719363 In reply to Apple.

Hi Apple, thanks for reaching out. There are a few things you can do here. First, Please read this article here: https://healthygut.com/what-to-do-when-the-scd-diet-isnt-working/ Second, you may need the help of a practitioner and some funcitonal medicine testing and supplementation. If you are in need of one, you can go here: https://healthygut.com/practitioners/ Digestive enzymes are going to be imperative as well: https://healthygut.com/recommended-products/

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By: Apple https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-719307 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-719307 I am having a hard time finding anyone and advice with the same problem as me. I don’t have diarrhea like everyone else. I have had ulcerative colitis for about 5 years now. I had barely any problems during those five years except for the last 10 months I’vebeen having a non-stop flare. My accidents and runs to the bathroom feel like I’m going to have diarrhea but only blood and mucous come out. The blood and stomach cramps were very rare and minimal but now, I’ve been onthe SCD diet for about 3 weeks, my stomach cramps have started to be all the time and the blood is increasing pretty quickly. When I actually have a stool it is really painful, i get really vulnerable, cold sweats, goose bumps, and horrible cramping that are similar in pain to child birth. I left my current gastroenterologist and have been trying to get with another who is very high in demand and very difficult to see. I am feeling really lost and desperate for pain relief and help.

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By: Brent Kovacs https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-406166 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-406166 In reply to Jess.

Hi Jess, thanks for reaching out! We’re so glad to hear that you decided to start SCD and are taking matters into your own hands. Steve wrote some really great posts on constipation here: https://healthygut.com/category/constipation/

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By: Jess https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-403880 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-403880 I launched myself into the book & read most of it in one sitting! I love having a plan of attack. Still in phase 1, but nervous about constipation. I’ve battled it for a while & I gather most of the people in this forum would prefer it to what they have experienced. I still go regularly, but it’s always small. I’ve got magnesium but I’m not sure it’s doing much. I’ve got prunes, but nervous about having them when we are meant to be trying to keep sugar/carbs at bay? Maybe I need to move of the pureed food & start eating more fibre? Confused about what tailored things I should be doing! Any advice is welcomed!

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By: Leah https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-182770 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-182770 Now the one thing I don’t see mentioned in any of your dark horsemen, that was a significant problem for me was FODMAPs. I was feeling horrible and had removed the 4 horsemen to no avail when I discovered FODMAPs. Now most of these diets pull out the main offenders of FODMAPs like grains but also encourage you to eat things high in FODMAPs like Onions, Garlic and other veggies high in Fructan (inulin) and apples and avocados. I went back to the beginning and made my soups without these offenders and finally found relief. Once I got going i was able to add some higher FODMAPs back in like the onions and garlic and avocado and things were much more calm after some healing had taken place. Highly suggest people include a 5th horsemen in the offenders list.

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By: Your Local Kings Park Bonded Emergency Locksmith, https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-179662 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-179662 Amazing! Its actually remarkable piece of writing, I have
got much clear idea on the topic of from this piece of writing.

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By: Day 3 – Back to good, and a banana recipe | My day-by-day guide to 90 days on SCD https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-179541 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-179541 […] a great article by the guys at SCDLifestyle.com about […]

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By: Gemma Bartlett https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-179235 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-179235 I’m now on my second week of eating paleo. I’m not craving carbs, I don’t even really feel like fruit a lot of the time so I’m pretty sure I am eating super low carb most of time without even realizing. I had some minor headaches in the first week but mostly I was fine. I have always had problem constipation but I’m on the third day of the second week and I have never had problems quite like this. I’m not bloated or in pain I’m just only going every third or so day and not with ease.

I’m worried about it but other then that o feel really good so far.

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By: Day 3 – Back to good, and a banana recipe | My SCD Journey https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-173766 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-173766 […] a great article by the guys at SCDLifestyle.com about […]

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By: NATHAN https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-170212 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-170212 In reply to Nancy.

Nancy, my heart goes out to you two. I have UC as well and have had a roller coaster 3.5 years with very little relief from symptoms. I just started SCD and and hopeful for some help but we’ll see. My wife and I looked into it and are reading the book and supposedly after 30 days you should know if this diet will help you or not. I think Jordan and Steve will say that if it’s not working after 30 days you need to tweak it, and they are the experts on here, but my plan is to try it for 30 days as a marker to see if I’m moving in the right direction. If I were you guys I would consider stabilizing with possibly a course of prednisone and working the diet on the side as the diet is a longer term fix and you guys have an acute, short term problem that needs to be addressed. Quality of life and other areas are extremely low when you are that bad, so that’s my 2 cents. I’m not a doctor and I’m not an expert on this diet. Just someone who has dealt with this disease for a few years and knows exactly how you guys feel. You may already be doing the medical route as well, but if you are not, going on meds for a little while to help your body quiet the inflammation while you make a diet change makes sense to me. Again, you have a short term and a long term issue here. If you could fix the symptoms with meds, and then fix the cause with diet (if bad bacteria is indeed the cause), then you’d be looking good sooner AND later. Just a thought.

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By: Nancy https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-156084 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-156084 Jordan,

My husband began the SCD journey about 8 days ago. He has been following the diet to a T (although with no dairy, as we thought this may be an issue for him). Unfortunately, he is feeling worse than before starting. He has moderate – severe UC, and we’ve been relatively lucky as he’s only been in the hospital 3x over the past 10 years. He recently experienced a bad flare and we decided it was time to change his diet. The past 8 days have been pretty unbearable – he has more D (about 10x per day), tired, achy, headaches, dizziness, and overall seems pretty sad. We are trying to stay positive, but it’s hard to feel like we are making the right choice when things seem to be going downhill. I’ve read in numerous places that it takes time to see changes – but how long should we wait? When should we see at least a minor sign of improvement? Thanks!

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By: Weekly Menu | Day by Day Gluten Free https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-145224 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-145224 […] really bad.  I have only eaten a couple bites of food the last few days.  I am not sure if it the “low-carb flu” or just GP.  I am not sure I will be able to eat any more if I go off SCD.  But by the end of […]

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By: Lucy https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-144861 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-144861 I was committed to the SCD journey when I started out and then I began having panic attacks in the middle of the night, my sleep has been light due to high amounts of stress and got much worse after starting the diet. And then my skin started tearing one of my fingers. The tears started out as small little cuts and grew in size and number each day. I have tried the SCD tough cases meal plan, but gave up after all these symptoms presented themselves. After I stopped the diet and added more foods back in the tears on the finger stopped and are finally healing.
I am very committed to healing myself and I think a switch to a diet like SCD can add stress to the body that it might not be able to deal with if you are already stressed and nutritionally deficient due to a compromised digestive system. I am going to get additional help and support – get my body tested for deficiencies, etc and correct anything that might be out of balance so that my body starts healing instead of struggling.
Good luck to everyone on this journey. Listen to your body and get additional support and help if you need it – your health is worth it. Find out what is going on and get the right kinds of supplements, therapies etc. to help you heal at the deepest level with the least number of setbacks.
Wishing everyone a healthy body and a peaceful mind.

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By: Brett https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-141299 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-141299 Hi, Ive started the SCD diet 3 weeks ago, My symptoms where constipation for 4/5 days then a really bad day of IBS/D, ive tried all sorts of supplements Phsillium husk/ Dandelion tea, peppermint Capsules, Ginger, Garlic, Oregano Oil, All they seem to do is allow me to not have sudden urges but still have constipation. Im craving carbs alot but have stayed away from them without alot of success. Im still in stage one of the diet as when i introduced Fruit Nuts and Cheese i Seem to get more bloated? anyone have any advice..I think I have SIBO? but havent actually been diagnosed with it. The reason i feel like its SIBO is i had a course of the antibiotic Ciproflaxin for a stomach bug i picked up in Eygpt and my symptoms disappeared for 9 Months but like ive read SIBO often comes back. Like mine did. Any Help would be great this has turned my life Upside down.

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By: Sam https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-133724 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-133724 Thank you for this well written post. Strangely, I am experiencing both the die off symptoms and low-carb flu fever according to the time range you listed.

“To summarize: “die-off” symptoms might last anywhere from the first 3-7 days on a real food diet and symptoms related to low-carb adaptation might last anywhere from the first 2-3 weeks.”

I am now confident now that I can ride through my 3 week of paleo.

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By: DM https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-131286 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-131286 Help! I started the intro diet and my symptoms are getting worse. I understand the die off, but I went from pretty formed stools but frequent before the diet, to loose stools on day 1, 2, to water on day 3, to urgent/frequent water on day 4. All I’ve been eating is chicken broth and chicken or turkey. Is that just the die off? I have a party at my house in 5 days and am scared!

Also can we take imodium at any point on this diet?

Thank you!

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By: Katy’s Story | Phoenix Helix https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-128235 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-128235 […] and gas within 24 hours.  My other GI symptoms initially got worse (which I now believe was a detox/healing reaction), but then gradually improved until they resolved completely after 6 weeks. It took longer to see […]

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By: Steven Wright https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-81738 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-81738 In reply to sharon.

Thanks for commenting Sharon. We continue to teach a custom diet for each person through proper testing and science. So glad your feeling better!

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By: sharon https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-80755 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-80755 In reply to Ryan.

my digestion got better w paleo, BUT after about 6 mos. lc paleo it got worse…again. holy grail? ‘fraid not! added back the carbs (starches, fruits) and digestion better than ever. carbs were the answer. i can’t buy into all this ‘die off’ stuff anymore, not like i would have about a year ago. i won’t even go into all the other negatives from following lc over the years. let’s just say that it nearly destroyed my metabolism. do your research…on BOTH sides!! much luck to you 🙂

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By: Jordan Reasoner https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-74715 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-74715 In reply to Ryan.

Based on what you’re telling me, I would attribute your constipation to low stomach acid, not meat:

https://healthygut.com/hypochlorhydria-3-common-signs-of-low-stomach-acid/

Jordan

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By: Ryan https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-74184 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-74184 So this story sounds familiar to me, except I have followed the diet strictly for over a year now and have had only a small lessoning of the symptoms. I am completely drug free. I have gotten very good at just managing the symptoms but have made no progress. I have been dealing with this “ibs” for 3 years now. Lately I have been having more constipation, so I ordered an iga test for gluten soy egg and casein and they all came back negative. So I thought what the hell and ate some bread the other day and cut out all meat as I have been consuming meat with most meals if not I get really tired. Surprisingly I felt great, the left side pain went away and I am putting on weight immediately (wanted as I cant gain weight with low carb scd even eating lots of fats). Is it possible my body just needs carbs? I have a fast metabolism and burn everything quickly, i just dont want to be doing long term damage with gluten which my body doesnt seem to have a problem with. Also since cutting out meats and adding bread beans and rice I have less bloating and the constipation has gone away! Has anyone experienced this?! Could my symptoms have been from eating meat?

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By: Week 1 – Making the Commitment | THE GUT BALANCE PROJECT https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-52344 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-52344 […] the lack of caffeine made going to work a drag. By the end of the week I started experiencing “die-off,” the body’s natural reaction to detoxification. For me this was a combination of brain fog, […]

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By: Jordan Reasoner https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-42845 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-42845 In reply to Maree Clark.

Great comment Maree – you’re right on: this stuff works, buy we have to find the custom version for our body!

Glad the betaine helped, so many of us have low stomach acid it’s staggering.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Jordan

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By: Maree Clark https://healthygut.com/did-scd-gaps-or-paleo-make-you-feel-worse/#comment-42775 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=4309#comment-42775 I am so glad you posted this blog! When I first started to treat my Crohn’s I had D for weeks that did not improve. I thought I was dying! Luckily, another internet support group member suggested that fat/protein might be the problem and I started taking Betaine HCL + peptin. The D relsolved and I was encouraged to continue on. This information needs to be supplied to newbies when starting so when something does go wrong (or different than for others) it can be dealt with sooner rather than later. I think newbies can get caught up in the promises of healing but can be very disappointed when it doesn’t work as well for them. After 5 months on SCD/GAPS I am still tweaking to get those elusive firm stools. I didn’t give up but wish I’d had more of an insight into the worst that can happen, as well as the best. This blog sheds great light on the issue!

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