Comments on: 3 Reasons Your Adrenal Fatigue Program Isn’t Working (and What to Do About It) https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/ Solutions for sensitive people with gut health issues. Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:08:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 By: Susan Coleman https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-806940 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-806940 In reply to Sera.

Your story is very similar to mine. I had to back off on the exercise and do more restorative stuff like walking and yoga. Exercise is stressful and not ideal when trying to recover from AF. Take minerals! Eat fruit with greens, provides good balance of sugar and salt minerals which is so important for weary adrenals. Also, I started grazing on food every 2 to 3 hours and included more “healthy” carbs like sweet potatoes, lentils and all the squashes. Get a good dose of those healthy carbs for dinner. When I implemented these changes into my routine, my energy improved, my sleep improved (no more waking at 3am!) my dry skin improved, my cognitive function improved! This was a good article although I would like to have seen a correlation between healthy carbs vs. unhealthy carbs. All carbs are not created equal.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-805257 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-805257 In reply to Sera.

HI Sera – Healing the adrenal glands can be a low and tricky process, but you’re on the right track. Often times, something called “pregnenolone steel” will happen (tons of information explaining this on the internet) but essentially your body is using up pregnenolone and thus a deficiency results. This is why many adrenal programs will include DHEA and pregnenolone drops as well. Cars are also needed for the adrenals to heal and fucntion, so it’s definitely a balance. I wouldn’t suggest cutting carbs to an extreme, for that reason. You may want to ask your doctor about adding in those two hormones and see if that helps at all.

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By: Sera https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-805250 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-805250 I seeis the hormone and gut health presentation still being offered in 2018?

I’ve been healing my adrenals for the past year with ongoing improvements in my saliva tests. However, 3am cortisol spikes have recently entered in my life in conjunction with low stomach acid problems. I suspect this might have to do with my progressive increase of intensifying of my workouts, and reducing my calories (especially my carbs) in an attempt to lose all the weight I gained, and ironically my weight has been going up despite these efforts! Ugh! Also, my progesterone has dropped radically in the past year and I’m trying to figure out where this fits into all. It’s as if fixing one hormonal issue simply leads to uncovering another hormonal issue. I am working with a functional medicine doctor, and, would like to learn from those who have lived through the hormonal mess and made it through to the other side. Your experience, wisdom and guidance are deeply appreciated.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-802155 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-802155 In reply to Tiffany.

HI Tiffany – low HCl can cause constipation or the heavy feeling of food just sitting there. You can read more here: https://healthygut.com/3-tests-for-low-stomach-acid/

How and what Betaine HCL to supplement with: https://healthygut.com/how-to-supplement-with-betaine-hcl-for-low-stomach-acid/

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By: Tiffany https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-802039 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-802039 Hello I’m 22 with adrenal fatigue I over worked myself thus causing me to re activate my espteinbarr. I used to workout hours on and barley eat. Now I’m eating more, my epsteinbarr is gone, my immune system seems to be good since I haven’t been sick in a long time, my sleep is getting deeper although it’s still hard to fall asleep. Although I feel like I’m making improvements every week my digestion is pretty slow. Before everything I used to get hungry, have cravings, and ever since I’ve gotten this when I eat I’m not hungry for a long time it feels like the food sits there. I’m not sure what to do about this.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-791867 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-791867 In reply to Steven.

Our Solving Leaky Gut program includes a specific protocol for adrenal problems including dietary and lifestyle recommendations as well as a targeted supplement protocol specific to the adrenal system.

You can read about the program and sign up for a free webinar on this exact topic here: http://solvingleakygut.com/webinar/live-qva/

Steve and Jordan’s research has led them to believe that hormones and gut health are closely linked, so the SLG program addresses both hormonal and adrenal conditions.

The Master program also includes several masterclasses that might be of interest to you specifically including:

The Gut-Thyroid Connection with Izabella Wentz, PharmD
The Gut-Hormone Connection – With Dr. Dan Kalish
The Gut-Metabolism Connection – With Dan Pardi

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By: Steven https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-791852 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-791852 In reply to Steven Wright.

If you have adrenal fatigue and leaky gut what is the best thing to do.

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By: Michelle https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-786891 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-786891 In reply to tm.

Lysine 500 mg daily

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-786858 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-786858 In reply to Star.

Hi Star – try consuming your carbs with a protein/fat source so you avoid that spike. Also, if you’re consuming whole food carbohydrates like potatoes this should also help eliminate the spike. Eating too few carbs can certainly take it’s toll on health and may have played a role in the condition you’ve developed, it’s hard to say for sure.

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By: Star https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-786734 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-786734 I appreciate your suggestion to eat more carbs for my adrenal fatigue. Coming from nearly two years on a ketogenic diet, I know for sure that I need them. But my glucose skyrockets when I eat more than 20-25 grams in a sitting. Could eating too low carb have created diabetes in me, or is it possible that I need more carbs in order to even reverse this newly developed carb intolerance? My cortisol is elevated and I am building reverse T3, both of which elevated blood glucose. Can I increase carbs or am I stuck forever?

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By: Sue https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-781451 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-781451 I have to walk a fine line with carbs. I need both hydrocortisone and fludrocortisone and must supplement with salt or I faint. I do best on limited carbs, no gluten. Potato that has bern cooked chilled and reheated is fine in moderation, rice, too. I had very low carnb for over a year and it seemed to help reset.something. Now I benefit from carbs, as long as I don’t over-do them. This article reinforces that I am on the right track. If only I had this information 30 years ago when the low blood pressure, constant migraine and dizziness first presented! Oh well! Better late than never.

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By: Barbara https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-781436 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-781436 In reply to Kate.

Hi Kate,
Have you read Nurishing Traditions? I soak my oats and other grains overnight and this has helped with my digestion. Started taking some sporadic probiotics like coag bacillus too.

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-781359 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-781359 In reply to Lisa.

HI LIsa, that’s a tough question. While it’s possible your adrenals will improve, the unfortunate truth is that it will be very difficult to heal if constantly under chronic stress.

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By: Lisa https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-780718 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-780718 I take Adderall for ADD, which is technically a stimulant, but I need it. I’m also a whistle blower involved in a long term process with some malignant narcissists. Serious corruption and I have to stay the course. Affects many people. I have assimilated better to the stress, meditate, among other things, and appear to be healing. Less illness, etc., but will not be able to be completely stress-free or stop taking the Adderall. Can I still heal my adrenals? I can and will do everything else.

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-776671 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-776671 In reply to Ben.

Hi Ben –

Initially, high cortisol can actually cause weight loss. However, if your cortisol becomes chronically elevated, it can lead to weight gain (especially around your stomach) and resistance to weight loss. Both chronically low and high cortisol can lead to changes in weight. The only wy to know for sure what you’re dealing with is to have your levels tested. We recommend the DUTCH urine test – you can get it here: http://www.DirectLabs.com/SCDLifestyle

Controlling your anxiety will the be the first step in healing. We all have stressful circumstances – learning how to deal with them is critical for healing. Meditation can really help deal with the unchangeable stressful circumstances and is a greta place to start. We love the Calm app for getting started meditating.

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By: Ben https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-776650 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-776650 As far as calories what do you consider is a mans weight? If one lost weight does that usually indicate more of a higher cortisol, or lower cortisol pattern? Most I’ve seen with AF, complain of weight gain. Well i actually lost weight.

Also great point about not eating enough. But many don’t eat (or eat enough) because they are anxious, so therefore they are not as hungry, or simply can’t control the environment that maybe is thier main source of stress. ie (screaming babies keeping parents up at night
bad neighborhood, work hours, night shifts, )

In those situations what do you suggest? Calming herbs/aminos?

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-772989 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-772989 In reply to Amy.

Glad we can help Amy 🙂

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By: Amy https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-772920 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-772920 Wow!!! This is finally the article I needed to read to really set my adernal fatigue protocol into complete motion and make sense to me why I am not having results as quickly as I would like to

This gives me hope and realization on what I need to be focusing on to heal my body as this has been a very tough ride on my body to put it nicely

I have always been a very active person and with this new round of adrenal fatigue my physical body is responding to it by turning off my ankles – making it very painful to walk etc. thank goodness for high-paying tolerances! But I now know that this is serious stuff not a game – and any protocol I doctors can give me Are not going to help unless I actually eat I s are not going to help unless I actually eat – sufficient calories etc.

I have been paleo – fish only for over a year and I’m now incorporating more regular Paleo eating into my lifestyle with The grass fed meats etc. Dash I should note that I was vegetarian for a few years

Stress is always been something that has been a primary role in my life – and realize how much that really affects me – the American public !!!

After reading this I have a new hope and new light and appreciate all that you’re very informative data that you set forth

I am bound and determined not to drive myself into the hospital again because of my health or the wei after reading this I have a new hope and new light and appreciate all that you’re very informative data that you set forth

I am bound and determined not to drive myself into the hospital again because of my health or low weight and sickness from stress and being underfed

I appreciate the fact that mentioned that these so-called wait we will put on healing our body – will come off and be at a healthier maintainable level where your body would like it to be after you’re done getting yourself healthy – I really needed to hear that

So thankful that there are people out there like you in the Paleo community who are helping people like me who are having questions about protocols that they’re spending a lot of money on supplements etc

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-761954 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-761954 In reply to Cari Bell.

Hi Cari – thanks for reaching out. It is possible you could be over-training, even if you don’t feel “over-trained.” I was over-trained for a while and it made me feel terrible – I had high cortisol, was cold, fatigued constantly, hungry all the time, and grumpy!! I was only running about 20 miles a week (spread out over several days) so I had no idea that was TOO much – but when combined with other stresses in my life and adrenal issues, it was. You might consider cutting back on your training and adding in more gentle, restorative movement like walking and yoga and really focusing on self-care. Take a bath, too! https://healthygut.com/real-food-tips-constipation/

I hope this helps 🙂 Overcoming over-training is hard (especially when running is your stress relief) but you can do it and will feel better for it.

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By: Cari Bell https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-761933 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-761933 Hi. I have been recently diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and am on Dr. Wilson’s Adrenal rebuilder. I am also taking a t4/t3 compounded med as well as testosterone which I have been on for three years. None of these seem to be working and I continue to gain weight. I have always been able to exercise and energy doesn’t seem to be a problem until the afternoon. I am currently training for my fourth half marathon this season (October-March) and watch what I eat but still I gain weight. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong and it is very frustrating! Any suggestions?

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-760849 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-760849 In reply to Sarah.

Hi Sarah – we haven’t used that one so we’re not sure if it would be legal. A good place to start is checking the ingredients against this list: http://www.pecanbread.com/supplements.html – remember you get to decide what works for your body.

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By: Sarah https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-760791 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-760791 Do you know if Nutri-West DSF Formula is SCD legal?

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By: Mariel Heiss https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-729905 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-729905 In reply to tm.

Hi TM thanks for commenting. I’m sorry to hear you’re going through such a difficult time. Our Solving Leaky Gut Program addresses adrenal problems and is helping many people achieve better health. You can learn more by signing up for a free webinar here: http://solvingleakygut.com/webinar/live/

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By: tm https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-729540 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-729540 I too have been suffering adrenal fatigue on and off for 4 years. In April this year I had a terrible bout of vertigo and the adrenal problems are back with a vengeance. I’ve been using adrenal rebuilder for 3 weeks, quit coffee and eating healthier than ever but yet every day seems to be getting worse. I can barely get up to cook dinner or grocery shopping. Everything is a huge effort. Im currently being tested for adolsterone deficieny. Will I feel better soon?

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-719999 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-719999 In reply to karen.

HI Karen, we suggest the Leaky Gut diet, WHich also includes protocols for for adrenal fatigue. We suggest learning more here: solvingleakygut.com You can also watch our Free wbinar and register here: http://solvingleakygut.com/webinar/live/?inf_contact_key=feb10c4385dfede8ad010c6546ad98f55f5c89ac8065688ae0901838e0a81588

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By: karen https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-719818 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-719818 I have been eating low carb in an effort to lose weight but I think it has brought on adrenal fatigue. My hashimoto’s blood work indicates I need higher dose of synthroid but I can barely tolerate my dose now. Trouble sleeping. Heart races. But extremely low bp and losing weight seems next to impossible. Where do I start to make changes w my diet? What is a good adrenal recovery diet day look like?

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By: Marilynn https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-707937 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-707937 You are so interesting! I do not suppose I’ve truly read anything like this before.
So wonnderful to discover someone with some unique thoughts on this subject.

Really.. many thanks for starting ths up. This website is something that’s needed on the internet, someone with a bit of
originality!

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By: Gloria https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-698209 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-698209 Yes, stress can produce diabet!

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By: Lori Jo Berg https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-555330 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-555330 In reply to Carol.

Hi Carol, thank you for reaching out! We highly suggest you work closely with a practitioner to help you interpret the results as well as provide a plan to support your adrenals. If you are in need of a practitioner, you can find one here: https://healthygut.com/practitioners/ It would be best to have a qualified individual look at your health history and take all of this useful information into account when reading these results.

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By: Carol https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-544180 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-544180 I just started following you guys. Great info! I had a saliva stress panel done recently. Cortisol sum was 25.9, DHEA was 2.5, Secondary IgA was <20. The reference range says I'm normal. Does this seem like adrenal fatigue to you? If so, what stage? I can hardly function, and docs can't give me answers.

Thank you!

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By: Brent Kovacs https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-482158 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-482158 In reply to Dalia.

Hi Dalia, thanks for reaching out! Our viewpoint on these fillers is that for most people they are not an issue as there is such a small amount, but you’ll have to pay attention to your body if you decide to go with them. We’ve worked with many people and have used these ourselves without issue. If you’re the type that seems to react to anything and everything, then you may want to listen to this podcast: https://healthygut.com/3-trends-preventing-you-from-getting-healthy-podcast-63/

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By: Dalia https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-478826 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-478826 Hi! You also mentioned somewhere that NuMedica B-Replete is good for energy. However, I was told it’s not SCD-legal as it contains rice flour. Is that accurate? Do you still recommend it while on SCD? Same question for Numedica Pan-rx which contains rice maltodextrin. THANKS!

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By: Kate https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-467970 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-467970 In reply to Warren Whitley.

Hi Warren, interesting comment, thanks for sharing. Like you I experienced Glandular Fever over a decade ago (I am 29 now) so it hit me in my prime and when I was at quite a high level of sport & gym training. I have never been able to get back to the same level since for any sustained period of time (again low endurance is an issue as you also mentioned) & it’s got to the point where everyone is like “well you should be over your glandular fever by now and feel 100% recovered” but I think it damages your system, as you’ve found out with the kinesiology (which is something I’ve always been interesting in trying but haven’t yet tried). I have been working with the SCD guys – Jordan in particular – to try to unravel the digestive/adrenal issues I have. I’ve seen improvement but now I’m at the stage where I am trying to increase my activity & start doing gym training again but this past week I’ve been running so low on energy that I haven’t even left my house let alone done any exercise! So it’s still a very up-and-down road and I’ll continue to follow all the advice from the guys here and hopefully one day be totally symptom-free 🙂

Great article by the way Steve & Jordan, I had never really thought about increasing carbohydrates before in relation to adrenal fatigue, I’ve been focusing on ensuring I have enough protein & fats, but the info you shared about carbohydrates makes sense…it’s easy to slip into the low-carb mode when starting out on a SCD/Auto-Immune Paleo diet…I’m really trying to tighten up my diet again at the moment after slipping a little lately & realised that I’ve probably been a bit too-low carb lately, especially when doing my gym training, so that’s probably not a good combination when trying to overcome adrenal fatigue as well! It is hard to increase carbohydrates to the levels you suggest when only eating vegetables & fruit, if you can digest starch well this would be a lot easier & at the moment I’m not eating starch, but I’ll try “dancing with carbohydrates” as you suggest!

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By: Brent Kovacs https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-462926 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-462926 In reply to Nancy.

Hi Nancy! Thanks for reaching out =) We suggest searching for a Functional Medicine Practitioner by using http://functionalmedicine.org. Best wishes!

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By: Nancy https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-459572 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-459572 I live in Toronto, Canada. Can you recommend where I can go to get testing done?

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By: Brent Kovacs https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-459019 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-459019 In reply to Loriann McDonough.

Hi Loriann,

Thanks for reaching out about the Gut-Hormone Event! We’re so grateful that you’re interested =)

Yes, you can certainly benefit greatly from this by purchasing a seat to get a recording and transcript. Let us know if you have any further questions.

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By: Loriann McDonough https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-455913 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-455913 I can’t attend the conference I am working at that time. Is it enough to get the recordings and transcript?

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By: Warren Whitley https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-426580 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-426580 I have been suffering Adrenal Fatigue problems most of my adult life without realising it until recent times. I am 65 now. Using kinesiology techniques I discovered only one adrenal gland was producing any cortisol. On further investigation I learnt that there is a receptor on the outside of the gland that tells the gland when to produce cortisol. In my case that receptor does not function at all after being damaged from having Glandular Fever in my younger days. After learning this I realised I would have to supplement with cortisol. I was lucky to find here in Australia a compound chemist that produces low dosage (10mg) slow release bioidentical capsules. One after breakfast maintains my cortisol levels so I can function with some normality. Most of my symptoms have disappeared except for low endurance which I presume is because my cortisol levels do not increase when needed. Hope this helps sufferers that cannot find answers to consider this solution.

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By: Jennifer https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-426283 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-426283 I am curious to what is a good reasonably priced supplement for adrenal fatigue especially in a person like myself with autoimmune issues?

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By: Jen https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-426251 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-426251 Ha. That last section is totally me. *sigh* Minus the verbal abuse, that part I can thankfully say has really changed. So. All three points were really timely today guys, thank you.

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By: Debbie https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-426217 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-426217 In a few days I’m scheduled to take the cortisol saliva test from Genova Diagnostics. Is this an “approved” company/test in your opinion?

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By: Steven Wright https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-426020 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-426020 In reply to G. Riggs.

No, you want to keep your blood sugar under control. Focus on that while working on the adrenal fatigue piece via a solid supplement program and with the help of a qualified practitioner

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By: G. Riggs https://healthygut.com/reasons-adrenal-program-isnt-working/#comment-425759 http://scdlifestyle.com/?p=9417#comment-425759 What if you have adrenal fatigue and metabolic damage — diabetes? Should you still try to increase your carbohydrates even if it causes your blood sugar to get out of control — post meal blood glucose spiking over 140 mg/dl?

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